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    Quote Originally Posted by Perumthachan View Post


    Compensation for serious adverse event -

    why is there the necessary to hatch a serious adverse event?
    why cannot the government publish the Phase III trial results in the public domain?
    what was the need to reject approval for two consecutive days, then suddenly give approval the third day and now claim that 'serious adverse events' will be compensated?
    Agree side effects should be mentioned even it Is major or minor should be list it down whether it is fever or cough or serious side effects too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veiwer11 View Post
    Agree side effects should be mentioned even it Is major or minor should be list it down whether it is fever or cough or serious side effects too
    The fact that Covidshield has no consent form like this and Covaxin has, is ample proof that indian citizens are being used as guinea pigs by Serum Institute before they roll out the vaccines in heavier quantities to other countries. First, covaxin is given to people in villages of bihar with no consent form; when they started showing adverse effects they were told to burden the medications. it was after this news spread, that the government is now saying there might be side effects and compensations will be given for serious adverse events. first the government has to answer, on what basis it gave approval to a drug that has not completed its round of clinical trials and that too, what bribe did the government receive to give the approval within one single day after it was rejected for two consecutive days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perumthachan View Post
    The fact that Covidshield has no consent form like this and Covaxin has, is ample proof that indian citizens are being used as guinea pigs by Serum Institute before they roll out the vaccines in heavier quantities to other countries. First, covaxin is given to people in villages of bihar with no consent form; when they started showing adverse effects they were told to burden the medications. it was after this news spread, that the government is now saying there might be side effects and compensations will be given for serious adverse events. first the government has to answer, on what basis it gave approval to a drug that has not completed its round of clinical trials and that too, what bribe did the government receive to give the approval within one single day after it was rejected for two consecutive days.
    Waw that is some serious thing.
    Which are the vaccine currently using in India.
    Why don’t they import some of proven vaccines

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perumthachan View Post
    The fact that Covidshield has no consent form like this and Covaxin has, is ample proof that indian citizens are being used as guinea pigs by Serum Institute before they roll out the vaccines in heavier quantities to other countries. First, covaxin is given to people in villages of bihar with no consent form; when they started showing adverse effects they were told to burden the medications. it was after this news spread, that the government is now saying there might be side effects and compensations will be given for serious adverse events. first the government has to answer, on what basis it gave approval to a drug that has not completed its round of clinical trials and that too, what bribe did the government receive to give the approval within one single day after it was rejected for two consecutive days.
    4th line replace 'sirum institute' with 'Bharath Biotech'

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    Resident Doctors of RML Hospital apprehensive about taking COVAXIN, write to Medical Superintendent. Request to vaccinate with COVISHIELD.

    Coronavirus: We prefer Covishield vaccine over Covaxin, say doctors at Delhi’s RML Hospital

    Activist Saket Gokhale has filed a writ petition against DCGI asking for Covaxin’s safety and efficacy data.

    https://scroll.in/latest/984204/coro...s-rml-hospital

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veiwer11 View Post
    Waw that is some serious thing.
    Which are the vaccine currently using in India.
    Why don’t they import some of proven vaccines
    Bhai UAE is not India, they have to import because there is a negligible pharma industry or next to no real medicine research.

    India produces 60% of the worlds vaccines and is leading covid vaccine research unlike what someone ignorant like Perumpachan thinks (it's not an insult, simply stating the fact). From day one India was supporting the research in developing the Oxford astrazeneca vaccine which is currently the world's largest used covid vaccine. Covaxin is completely developed and produced in India. Brazil has already ordered 12 million doses of Covaxin. In addition to this other vaccines being developed in India are:

    - Zydus Cadila’s ZyCov-D (Stored at room temperature, into phase 3)
    - Biological E's vaccine being developed with Baylor College of Medicine in Houston
    - Gennova Pharmaceutical’s vaccine is India’s first mRNA COVID-19 (stored at -2 degrees vs Pfizer's 70 degrees)
    - Bharat Biotech commencing Phase I trials of its intranasal Covid-19 vaccine (not injected but nasal intake)

    While western countries can afford expensive vaccines, rest of the world will rely on vaccine makers like India producing large quantities of affordable vaccines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Veiwer11 View Post
    Side effects okke ella covid vaccinum und agree. But ellavarum trial phase kazhinjit result analyse chethittaan use cheyyunnath. Not only the side effects but also effectiveness of vaccine.
    Sinopharm vaccine UAE phase 3 trial cheythath 30,000 volunteers . They check the side effects and effectctivenes over a period of 3months by closely monitoring all volunteers. Conclusion was that vaccine is 86% effective.
    Then it rolled to frontline workers later to public.
    If covaxin also come through similar process then fine. Otherwise how will confirm effectiveness of vaccine . If it is not effective as expected then whole process will be in vein.

    Pfeizer also tested and effectiveness is 93%
    The fact is even China has only given conditional approval for Sinopharm, but people were ready to get injected?!

    DONG-YAN JIN, Prof. at the school of Bio Sciences, The University of Hong Kong


    “We still have not seen key details, such as the number of trial participants and infections in Phase 3 trials for the vaccine. That said, China’s approval indicates that at least regulators have access to such key information."
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2950EW

    No other developed nation or even the WHO has not approved Sinopharm's vaccine. This has not completed Phase 3 trials in China even (no peer reviewed study). The fact is for UAE nationals the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is being distributed, while rest of the expatriate population the chinese vaccine!

    Even Sinopharm has published a top-line view showing its COVID-19 vaccine is 79% effective, a fair chunk below the high efficacy seen from its rivals. But this is not a peer reviewed study, they have not released the details.
    https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotec...-behind-rivals

    UAE has ZERO experience in developing or trialing vaccines! Vithyasam if you question the UAE arabs, you are either in jail or deported!

    The announcement by the United Arab Emirates that it approved a Chinese vaccine was met with silence from China, and raised more questions.

    The United Arab Emirates issued the first government approval of a Chinese coronavirus vaccine on Wednesday, citing preliminary data showing that it was 86 percent effective. But Chinese officials and Sinopharm, the state-owned maker of the vaccine, were silent on Wednesday on the Emirati disclosures. And scientists noted that the announcement was lacking in data and other critical details. They have not publised the research behind this data, so no one believes them.

    But even as the announcement by the Emirates raised hopes about the promise of Chinese vaccines, it also pointed to a frustrating lack of clarity that has dogged China’s coronavirus vaccine development for months. Sinopharm would not confirm or comment on the Emirates news even hours after it came out. A spokeswoman for the company hung up the phone when reached and did not respond to messages and calls afterward.

    The news release from the Emirati government provided few other key details, such as the number of Covid-19 cases that were analyzed or the ages of the volunteers, making it unclear to scientists how Sinopharm came to its conclusions.


    “The devil is in the details,” said Beate Kampmann, director of the Vaccine Center at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. “It’s very difficult to judge this without seeing the number of cases. The main thing is, the trial results need to be made public.”

    Jin Dongyan, a virologist at the University of Hong Kong, called the information in the Emirates’ disclosure “mediocre,” saying more transparency from the vaccine maker was needed.
    https://www.pharmaceutical-technolog...nasal-vaccine/

    The above is a NY Times report, ithu UAE'il banned aayirikum, so not sure if you can read.

    On the other hand the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine that is being rolled out in India has been given approval by the MHRA the UK and the The European Medicines Agency (EU).

    Covaxin is an emergency use vaccine and phase 3 trials are ongoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortbread View Post
    Bhai UAE is not India, they have to import because there is a negligible pharma industry or next to no real medicine research.

    India produces 60% of the worlds vaccines and is leading covid vaccine research unlike what someone ignorant like Perumpachan thinks (it's not an insult, simply stating the fact). From day one India was supporting the research in developing the Oxford astrazeneca vaccine which is currently the world's largest used covid vaccine. Covaxin is completely developed and produced in India. Brazil has already ordered 12 million doses of Covaxin. In addition to this other vaccines being developed in India are:

    - Zydus Cadila’s ZyCov-D (Stored at room temperature, into phase 3)
    - Biological E's vaccine being developed with Baylor College of Medicine in Houston
    - Gennova Pharmaceutical’s vaccine is India’s first mRNA COVID-19 (stored at -2 degrees vs Pfizer's 70 degrees)
    - Bharat Biotech commencing Phase I trials of its intranasal Covid-19 vaccine (not injected but nasal intake)

    While western countries can afford expensive vaccines, rest of the world will rely on vaccine makers like India producing large quantities of affordable vaccines.



    The fact is even China has only given conditional approval for Sinopharm, but people were ready to get injected?!



    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2950EW

    No other developed nation or even the WHO has not approved Sinopharm's vaccine. This has not completed Phase 3 trials in China even (no peer reviewed study). The fact is for UAE nationals the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is being distributed, while rest of the expatriate population the chinese vaccine!

    Even Sinopharm has published a top-line view showing its COVID-19 vaccine is 79% effective, a fair chunk below the high efficacy seen from its rivals. But this is not a peer reviewed study, they have not released the details.
    https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotec...-behind-rivals

    UAE has ZERO experience in developing or trialing vaccines! Vithyasam if you question the UAE arabs, you are either in jail or deported!


    https://www.pharmaceutical-technolog...nasal-vaccine/

    The above is a NY Times report, ithu UAE'il banned aayirikum, so not sure if you can read.

    On the other hand the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine that is being rolled out in India has been given approval by the MHRA the UK and the The European Medicines Agency (EU).

    Covaxin is an emergency use vaccine and phase 3 trials are ongoing.
    sinopharm 3rd trial was done in UAE if you don’t know.
    one of my friend was volunteer for it . He has been checked about health over 1 month period.
    Around 30,000 volunteers participated in trial 3. After reviewing the result only started vaccination.
    Vaccine is not developed in uae. It is from China and 1st 2 phase trial done in china only.
    3rd phase trial was in only . So its comes after that only

    pfuezer id distributed in Dubai only . Rest is abu dhabi and Sharjah is sinopharm.
    Your claim that for UAE national pfiezer is not correct.
    Myself took sinopharm since they use inactive form of virus.
    It is avaible for me to choose pfiezer if I register and took it from Dubai.

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    WTF? Everybody will have some sort of medical conditions. Such people will have low immunity which in-turn raises their chance of getting affected by Covid.
    If this vaccine cannot be given to those with medical conditions, what is the purpose of it?

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    Close to 50 % of total covid cases from india coming from kerala which constitute just 2% of population....cannot explain it more...while initial reports say vaccine refusal is hieghest jn kerala ..only 25 % of people designated took vaccine...commies are busy doing fear mongering regarding vaccine...

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