★ Parvathy Thiruvoth ★ Official Thread ★

[ballu]

glorofication of misogyny is not the first time in films.. serveral examples all around the world.... so if a sect of people feel that she raised this issue at this point of time with an agenda, can u disprove it?
what was the whole point of paravthy remarks? u seemed to be confused urself..

and btw, in this particular film, the lady is euqally to be blamed by her yardstick...though i dont agree... so does it mean that all these rules only apply to men?

Why did she pick this film in particular ?

I think choosing Kasaba was random and not at all intentional. Its not like she was the first person to talk about this film and if am not wrong there was some case against it at the time of release due to this particular scene . evaru ee paranjhathu okke film festivaline ede nadanna oru forumil annu....cinemayil sthreekalude presentation/contribution ...anghane entho oru topicine patti ulla charachayil annu ee abhipraya prakadanam nadathiyathu ....allathe chumma oru suprabhathathil ennu Kasabaye vimarshichekam ennu karuthi kooti vannu paranjhathu ayitu thonilla ...she had said something on similar lines about Narasimham too in the past.


Is "glorification" such a difficult word to understand ? The only point that she made was misogyny should not be glorified ... and that was not a order or something ....just expressing her opinion !!
ethil etra manasilakan entha ullathu ...? valare simple ayitu alle paranjhe


entharam oru contextil if anyone is to be blamed its the writer/director ...athum avaru creative liberty enna peril justify cheyan nokum ....at the end of the day its not a crime and you cannot dictate anyone what is to be done ...ethu okke oro alukalude thought processil ninum undavendathu annu

[moovybuf]

Why did she pick this film in particular ?

I think choosing Kasaba was random and not at all intentional. Its not like she was the first person to talk about this film and if am not wrong there was some case against it at the time of release due to this particular scene . evaru ee paranjhathu okke film festivaline ede nadanna oru forumil annu....cinemayil sthreekalude presentation/contribution ...anghane entho oru topicine patti ulla charachayil annu ee abhipraya prakadanam nadathiyathu ....allathe chumma oru suprabhathathil ennu Kasabaye vimarshichekam ennu karuthi kooti vannu paranjhathu ayitu thonilla ...she had said something on similar lines about Narasimham too in the past.

this is ur opinion.. i dont thinks so.. i think she picked kasba and mammooty with intention...

Is "glorification" such a difficult word to understand ? The only point that she made was misogyny should not be glorified ... and that was not a order or something ....just expressing her opinion !!
ethil etra manasilakan entha ullathu ...? valare simple ayitu alle paranjhe

so she expressed her opinion.. and everyone has to gulp it as it is... no objections (in whatever manner) can be done... is that it?

entharam oru contextil if anyone is to be blamed its the writer/director ...athum avaru creative liberty enna peril justify cheyan nokum ....at the end of the day its not a crime and you cannot dictate anyone what is to be done ...ethu okke oro alukalude thought processil ninum undavendathu annu

why it is that anything wirtten in film has always to be politically correct? there was female and male in that scene and each had its own charcteritics... the scene moulded with those 2 characters.. so why so much fuss?

[ballu]

this is ur opinion.. i dont thinks so.. i think she picked kasba and mammooty with intention...

so she expressed her opinion.. and everyone has to gulp it as it is... no objections (in whatever manner) can be done... is that it?



why it is that anything wirtten in film has always to be politically correct? there was female and male in that scene and each had its own charcteritics... the scene moulded with those 2 characters.. so why so much fuss?

I gave some logical explanation which made me form the opinion that picking Kasaba was not intentional and now its your turn to say why you believe she had a hidden agenda .

second point


Please feel free to disagree and engage in some discussion.
avaru paranjha kaariyathinodu yojikunndo ellayo ennathu okke thikachum secondary annu ....pakshe ee whole controversy undayathu thanne avaru parayatha allenki udeshikatha kaariyathinte peril annu ...

you can totally disagree with what she said but counter it with some sensible argument ....


Third point ....

I think we are back to square one .....Nobody is asking to make only politically correct films or characters ... Showing misogyny on screen is the not the problem here ..."glorifying" it is .

[jimmy]

this is ur opinion.. i dont thinks so.. i think she picked kasba and mammooty with intention...

so she expressed her opinion.. and everyone has to gulp it as it is... no objections (in whatever manner) can be done... is that it?



why it is that anything wirtten in film has always to be politically correct? there was female and male in that scene and each had its own charcteritics... the scene moulded with those 2 characters.. so why so much fuss?

there is no question parvathy had an agenda in while picking on mammootty and mammootty movie. previous day only she praised lal for the north audience. next day she came to kerala and insulted mammootty and his role in kasaba. it is a movie and some scenes, or dialogues you may not like and picking on mammootty the one and only true gentleman of indian cinema she was showing off her true colors and her intentions are clear. and she did not utter a word against ifran when he said all malayalee girls are hot in bed and that is worse than what is said or done in kasaba.
like mammootty said there is freedom of expression as well as freedom of speech. we can not have one without the other just remember that. she says she respect mammootty and if she had any respect for mammootty she would not have made comments like this especially when she is part of the fretenity.

[moovybuf]

I gave some logical explanation which made me form the opinion that picking Kasaba was not intentional and now its your turn to say why you believe she had a hidden agenda .

i dont find any logic in it... the thing is u have already decided what needs to be inferred from her speech and then trying to find "logical" justification...
for me the whole situation itself was staged and especially when the WCC was attacked for non-favourable stand against Surabhi...
Her agenda was to divert the SUrabhi controversy and also have a poke at Mammootty... If Kasaba was released during that period ur argument wud have made a little more sese.. and at least if she had quoted a few such movies as reference, I would have still stood with ur logic... this is done on purpose to belittle Mamm...

second point


Please feel free to disagree and engage in some discussion.
avaru paranjha kaariyathinodu yojikunndo ellayo ennathu okke thikachum secondary annu ....pakshe ee whole controversy undayathu thanne avaru parayatha allenki udeshikatha kaariyathinte peril annu ...

you can totally disagree with what she said but counter it with some sensible argument ....

avaru utheshikkaatha enu ningal maathram paranja mathiyo? athu nammakkum koode thonnande? athalla ningalkku thonnunath maathram aanu shari ennaano?
avarude uthesha shuthiye chodyam cheyyaan namaku paadile?

Third point ....

I think we are back to square one .....Nobody is asking to make only politically correct films or characters ... Showing misogyny on screen is the not the problem here ..."glorifying" it is .

its upto the creator to glorify what he/she feels ... then again what if i say that scene is not necessarily misogyny... depends on how u see it....

[ballu]

i dont find any logic in it... the thing is u have already decided what needs to be inferred from her speech and then trying to find "logical" justification...
for me the whole situation itself was staged and especially when the WCC was attacked for non-favourable stand against Surabhi...
Her agenda was to divert the SUrabhi controversy and also have a poke at Mammootty... If Kasaba was released during that period ur argument wud have made a little more sese.. and at least if she had quoted a few such movies as reference, I would have still stood with ur logic... this is done on purpose to belittle Mamm...

avaru utheshikkaatha enu ningal maathram paranja mathiyo? athu nammakkum koode thonnande? athalla ningalkku thonnunath maathram aanu shari ennaano?
avarude uthesha shuthiye chodyam cheyyaan namaku paadile?




its upto the creator to glorify what he/she feels ... then again what if i say that scene is not necessarily misogyny... depends on how u see it....

A)

No truce here as the logic of using this controversy as a cover up to whatever be that surabhi fiasco does not make sense to me .
I think Kasaba was a easy pick for anyone in that situation .....ee vivadathinu okke munpathe oru scenario edukam ....last few yearsil misogyny de peril etra charcha cheyapetta oru big film undo ??
anghane oru film undayitum ee cinema thanne pokki pidchu enkil ....yea i would have agreed to your point.

B)

Avaru udeshichathu njan nuclear science padichu kandu pidichathu onnum alla :) I thought a bit of common sense is all that required .....
valare basic ayitu annu kaariyangal express cheythathu ...
problem here is the perspective of entire argument is from that of a Mam fan ....

C )

Misogyny , sexism ....these stuff have a long way to go as far as our cinema is concerned. The fact that at least these things are being debated is definitely a change.
pinne nighalku ah scene kanditu misogynistic aayitu thonilanki ....there is nothing i can do about it ....thoku choondi abhiprayam maatikan pattilalo

[SachinMammookka]

Kochammamar ellarum koode thatti kootti undakkiye WCC form cheythathinu shesham irangiye chithram aanu Chunkz, sthree shareera predharshanavum ashleelasambhashangangalum kondu mathram hit chart il idam nediya chithram... mathramalla athinte vijayathinu shesham athe samvidhayakan athinte 2nd part athum oru porn actress koode undu enna reethiyil market cheythathum media mizhuvan etteduthathum ee WCC de moookkin thumbathu vechu thanne aanu..... ee vishyamgalil onnum thanne oru sthree virudhathayum kandethan WCC kko sthrekalude malagha Parvathy kko sadhikkunnilla...... alla Mammookka mathram aanallo malayalathile eka actor whose acting can glorify things..... pinne oru puthappil swantham shareeram olippikkan paadu pedunne nadi athilude janangalkku kodukkunnne sandhesham enthanu ennu vykthamakkendi irikkunnu.... athu pole oru nayakanadante nithambathil public aayi kai kondu sparshikkumbol athu oru glorifying act aakathathu enthu kondu aanu......

[LoVe DJ]

Parvathyku parvathyude opinion parayaan ellaam adhikaaravum und.
but athinodu agree cheyyano ennathu vere kaaryam.
parvathy share cheyunna pala articlesinteyum udeshashudhi doubtfull aaanu.

pinne etho national tv chanenil anchor chodikunnund parvathiyodu regarding this issue. "is the superstar still silent.she says YES. even when mamoty has replied to her..WHY is that? ithoke nammude industriye or actorsine moshamaayi chithreekarikkum.

[Dylan]

The most surprising/weird thing about this entire controversy is that lot many people does not even know what was said in the first place

kadha ariyathe aattom aduka enna chollu anvartham aavunnu .

basic premise of the argument -- why showing and glorifying is different -- industry il ulla seasoned aayittulla aalukalkku polum manasilaavunnilla...
appo pinne kannum pootti ankam vettunna fans ine paranjittu valla kaaryamundo...
but ithonnum bodhapoorvam aanennum thonunnilla... the misogyny is so ingrained that they are unable to see it... aashiq abu paranjathu pole, ithu sampradaayangalude prashnam aanu...
charchakal undaakunnu ennathu positive thanne but as long as we treat this as an emotive, mammootty vs the world or mohanlal vs the world issue, i don't think we'll head anywhere...

[ShahSM]

Misogyny "glorify" cheyunathu alle parvathy vimarshichathu ?? allathe cinemayil nanma characters maatram mathi ennu paranjhitu illa....

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