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[verutheorumanushyan]

Karimpinpoovinakkare was a classical case of even the great Padmarajan failing in the balancing act. The movie was hyped up during the pre production and shoot time as a revenge saga with the potential of recreating the magic of Padmarajan- I.V.Sasi classic Itha Ivide Vare. But they could not recreate that magic. The biggest problem was this deliberate attempt to equalize both characters. This would have been prompted by I.V.Sasi who wanted to prove that he can produce mega hits even with Lal as hero. But some how I.V.Sasi (with all respect to him -my favourite director) failed in this regard at his peak. Many of the I.V.Sasi movies in which Mammootty was the hero without or with Lal playing supporting role were huge hits. But I.V.Sasi movies with Lal as the hero didn't click at that time. He had to wait until the Classic Devasuram to overcome this jinx! But finally what a wait it was!!

IV Sasi movies with Lal as solo hero were quite on their own class although their commercial success can be disputed. I would even say that Lal had more varied hero roles with IV sasi than Mammootty had. Many of IV Sasis Mammoottys characters follow the same mannerisms, styles. There are some varied roles - yes like Mirgaya or 1921 or Aavanaazhi. But at least 20 Mammootty roles are almost replication of his other characters. Lals case was different. Uyarangalil, Rangam, Anuragi, Devasuram. Really varied - the numbers dont matter much

I would consider Lal as an equal hero to Mammootty in Adimakal Udamakal - it may be the closest to perfect Mammootty-Lal movie as heroes with each performing marvelously and outclassing each other. Just to give an example of the makers trying to give equal importance and succeeding in that.

[ShahSM]

IV Sasi movies with Lal as solo hero were quite on their own class although their commercial success can be disputed. I would even say that Lal had more varied hero roles with IV sasi than Mammootty had..

Like Sathyan Anthikkad-Mammookka combo ;)

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[Felon]

IV Sasi movies with Lal as solo hero were quite on their own class although their commercial success can be disputed. I would even say that Lal had more varied hero roles with IV sasi than Mammootty had. Many of IV Sasis Mammoottys characters follow the same mannerisms, styles. There are some varied roles - yes like Mirgaya or 1921 or Aavanaazhi. But at least 20 Mammootty roles are almost replication of his other characters. Lals case was different. Uyarangalil, Rangam, Anuragi, Devasuram. Really varied - the numbers dont matter much

I would consider Lal as an equal hero to Mammootty in Adimakal Udamakal - it may be the closest to perfect Mammootty-Lal movie as heroes with each performing marvelously and outclassing each other. Just to give an example of the makers trying to give equal importance and succeeding in that.

u got it wrong man.mammootty-iv shashi combo is the biggest in indian film history in terms of quality,variety,class and bo.starts with

1) Thrishna
2)Athirathram
3)Aalkkoottathil Thaniye
4)Adiyozhukkukal
5)Aksharangal
6)Kanamarayathu
7)Anubandham
Karimbinpoovinakkare
9)Vartha
10)Aavanazhi
11)Adimakal Udamakal
12) Nalkavala
13)Abkari
14)1921
15)Mukthi
16)Mrigaya
17)Inspector Balram


not mentioned all.still u see the list feel the class&mass with variety.

[verutheorumanushyan]

u got it wrong man.mammootty-iv shashi combo is the biggest in indian film history in terms of quality,variety,class and bo.starts with

1) Thrishna
2)Athirathram
3)Aalkkoottathil Thaniye
4)Adiyozhukkukal
5)Aksharangal
6)Kanamarayathu
7)Anubandham
Karimbinpoovinakkare
9)Vartha
10)Aavanazhi
11)Adimakal Udamakal
12) Nalkavala
13)Abkari
14)1921
15)Mukthi
16)Mrigaya
17)Inspector Balram


not mentioned all.still u see the list feel the class&mass with variety.

I respect your opinion and I don't think I contradicted that much anyway. Nobody can dispute that IV Sasi-Mammootty combination had probably the most class-mass roles and hits. Nevertheless, 80% of those movies depicted the Angry not-so-young man Mammootty. Kaanamarayathu, Mrigaya, Lakshamana Rekha, Anubandham and a few others are there as exceptions but will fall short of majority. But irrespective of the lesser number of Lal as solo hero movies, IV Sasi-Lal movies had him portray different kind of personalities - in fact I can't quickly remember any 2 Lal solo hero roles in IV Sasi movies whose characters are similar. Im not talking about the different type of movies but the different type of characterizations. And this is in contrast to their career styles otherwise.

[Devarajan Master]

IV Sasi movies with Lal as solo hero were quite on their own class although their commercial success can be disputed. I would even say that Lal had more varied hero roles with IV sasi than Mammootty had. Many of IV Sasis Mammoottys characters follow the same mannerisms, styles. There are some varied roles - yes like Mirgaya or 1921 or Aavanaazhi. But at least 20 Mammootty roles are almost replication of his other characters. Lals case was different. Uyarangalil, Rangam, Anuragi, Devasuram. Really varied - the numbers dont matter much

I would consider Lal as an equal hero to Mammootty in Adimakal Udamakal - it may be the closest to perfect Mammootty-Lal movie as heroes with each performing marvelously and outclassing each other. Just to give an example of the makers trying to give equal importance and succeeding in that.

Thanks VOM.
I disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it!!

[Devarajan Master]

u got it wrong man.mammootty-iv shashi combo is the biggest in indian film history in terms of quality,variety,class and bo.starts with

1) Thrishna
2)Athirathram
3)Aalkkoottathil Thaniye
4)Adiyozhukkukal
5)Aksharangal
6)Kanamarayathu
7)Anubandham
Karimbinpoovinakkare
9)Vartha
10)Aavanazhi
11)Adimakal Udamakal
12) Nalkavala
13)Abkari
14)1921
15)Mukthi
16)Mrigaya
17)Inspector Balram


not mentioned all.still u see the list feel the class&mass with variety.

Well said Felon. I am quite happy to see people who knows the amazing range of I.V.Sasi- Mammootty movies.
Aksharanghal, Aalkoottathil Thaniye, Kanamarayathu, Adiyozhukkukal, Athirathram and Lakshmanarekha were 6 I.V.Sasi- Mammootty movies released in a single year-the great 1984. Six amazing performances in contrasting roles. This spectacular 1984 was followed by Anubandham in 1985. Muraleedharan master of Anubandham is a text book of acting....the poise, control, dexterity was unbelievable....and it had no shades of any character of 1984. Then came Vartha.....then Aavanazhi....then Adimakal Udamakal.... a series of diverse characters which took both the class and mass by storm....

[Devarajan Master]

No objection to your listing....
But, diagree with your interpretation/implication...

How come giving equal importance to another hero, be termed as a compromise?
Giving equal or more importance to Lal in a Mammootty Movie.....Is that an unpardonable offence/sin?

Thanks Yodha.

Did I tell anywhere that giving importance to Lal is an unpardonable offence. No. I was just enlisting and analysing some of those films to give an answer to MamBlr. Probably, I couldn't find one except those extended cameos or guest roles.

Similarly, I didn't say that giving equal importance is a compromise. What I said was that giving equal importance should not have compromised the quality and content of the movie. There is no need to give equal screen space/dialogues/good moments etc just for the sake of those numbers. Let it be a bigger role for one and smaller role for another or let it be equal roles....but it should not be at the cost of quality....for eg: the sterile, rotten Harikrishnans. or even 20-20. Even today I have not watched those movies completely. I would have loved to see Mammootty in the role of Anupam Kher in Pranayam opposite Lal. Even I would have loved to see Mammootty playing Thilakan's role as Lal's father in Kireedom.
Itha Ivide Vare 1990 kalilenkilum veendum chalachithramakanam ennu njhan orupadu aagrahichirunnu. Somante role il Mohanlal(So Lal is the hero, isn't it? So do I have aproblem there?) Madhuvinte role il Mammootty....Just imagine them doing those characters....
Hope I have cleared your questions.

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